the deal before with the debt ceiling, supposed to be the ultimate deal we'd never have to punt again. this leads to another punt, another punt and things are getting better let's not do it now. things are getting worse, let's not do it it now. and it's raining outside, let's not do it. let gerri talk for a minutes. >> according to the democrats, they're standing in the way of this. never seem to get anything done and let's remember there was a quid pro quo here, if we agree about the fiscal cliff we'll start cutting spending and it's not happening and the democrats said we're not going to keep our promises. >> you know we have economic growth, the deficit goes down, it does happen, it does happen. >> to your point. >> that's the problem not-- >> and the problem is not just the deficit, the problem is entitlement spending and the president is not going to do a single darn thing about it. >> and guy, let me go back to ben on this. ben, you've said we're all eventually going to have to amour taxes and people watching the show take it tough, it's going to be tough. so, ultimately washing